True Christians Do Not Advocate or Promote Armageddon

To Honor Jesus Christ, Glorify God, Encourage Believers, & Warn All
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This information is offered with the hope that YOU can come to KNOW the Lord personally.

Throughout our society and the world it is widely believed and reported that "Christians" are promoting war in the Middle East to further their own "Armageddonist" agenda.  The word on the street is that the "believer" President Bush is among those whose "Messianic" viewpoint causes such bellicose behavior.  "Those" includes the purported Bible thumping Bush supporters in the "red-states."  These simplifications are nothing more than propaganda designed to promote the Clash of Civilizations paradigm, in which true Christians and Moslems will be the innocent victims (along with the US White House and the capitalist West, now that the Soviet empire has been defeated).

A case in point-
Faith, either secular or religious, in absolute truths may inhibit the believer from accepting the consequences of his/her actions. For example, the unnecessary deaths of soldiers may seem an acceptable consequence if the commander in chief has absolute faith in the righteousness of his mission. Especially if that leader believes he has been ordained by god to wage the holy war...

I have no idea whether or not the President of the United States believes this.  If I had to wager, I would wager that he did not believe this.  I do know this- the President's reported "faith" (about which I know nothing and neither would I ever take the word of the media, who would not recognize "faith" if they did see it) is a convenient excuse to blame true Christians, a politico-religio endgame par excellence.

According to political analysts, 30% of George Walker Bush's base believe in some version of the Apocalypse. All of them must, as do all proponents of Armageddon, believe in Revelation 16 12...

Baloney!!  No one is a proponent of Armageddon.  The notion is absurd.  There is no one righteous on earth to execute judgment.  Judgment is the purview of Jesus Christ only.  He only is righteous.

Rapture-Christians may even promote disasters as a necessary component of the divinity's greater plan for humanity, such as the belief in the end times, or the belief in a vengeful god who uses natural disasters, disease, and war to smite sinners, heathens, and infidel: e.g., the Asian tsunami wiping out pornographers, Katrina and AIDS wiping out gays and lesbians, Bush wiping out his god's enemies.

Good grief!  I got it now - tsunamis are caused by believers.  Yes, I know certain less-than-thoughtful pastors have made statements.  See discussion below of "NOMINAL Christians".

Such faith has in the past caused mass hysteria that has lead to the violent suppression of "others" and to acts of genocide (the Holocaust), or in some cases group suicide (Heaven's Gate).

 I will not be drinking the Kool-Aid nor will I advocate anything but love toward Abraham's seed, including Ishmael.

Part of the problem is that there are many NOMINAL "Christians", who do not know Jesus Christ as their Savior, who actually believe we need to eradicate those of another religion, partially because they have been the victim of lies regarding terrorism and the war on terror.  The churches are FULL of NOMINAL "Christians."  The kingdom of NOMINAL "Christians", unfortunately, is this present world system and they believe their kingdom has been threatened.  Most of them have not paused long enough to detect their own voices spouting hate speech which drowns out what is likely genuine patriotism.  These NOMINAL "Christians" are encouraging an "Armageddon" alright, but, it is their own "Armageddon" which they will soon be facing

Everytime I hear or see a "conservative" commentator advocating war against a religion, I shudder.  When I see chest thumping "retaliation" I remember what the Lord said, "Vengeance is mine, saith the Lord."  It is a fearful time and, just in case no one is noticing, it is not 1942.   There will be no Marshall Plan for the Middle East.   The globalists have their "Marshall Plan" and it does not include your prosperity and, consequently, your freedom.  So, when you get done with your war, what are your choices going to be?

If words like the following (from Toby Keith, God bless him) have captured your heart, I suggest you reexamine yourself in the light of the teachings of the Bible. 

Ohhh Justice will be served
And the battle will rage
This big dog will fight
When you rattle his cage
And you'll be sorry that you messed with
The U.S. of A.
'Cause we'll put a boot in your ass
It's the American way

Just remember that on 9-12-2001 many of those Islamic "celebrations" you saw on televison were dated footage and everytime an American GI is baptised in the field by a US Army Chaplain, a video is shown in the Middle East of the American "Crusade."  Are you getting the picture, yet?

This website has been subjected to the same criticism as that levelled at the "Christians" (described above).  This criticism came in spite of numerous and consistent statements to all that the ONLY solution is to get right with the Lord before it is too late.   There are going to be no winners in the coming wars and chaos.  I understand why some of you do not like to read these pages.  To accept what I am saying is going to require a major change of heart.  It will be painful, I am sure, based on my own personal experience.

I repeat the criticism and my response of July 18, 2004 here-

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Since it was recently said of this website-
But in the hands of evangelical commentators, who (thoroughly at peace with contemporary imperialism) line up chronological charts about the near-term future, with authoritative pomposity linking prophecy with current Middle Eastern events [the "linking prophecy" section in red being a link to this very page] (much as the astrologer casts horoscopes with pseudoscientific precision, using snake-oil salesmanship to seduce the gullible), it becomes something quite different: a validation for ongoing war.  Luther in no way detected the Holy Spirit in it. But Bush, committed to an Armageddon-like war between the forces of good and those of evil, no doubt sees forces of good throughout this scripture, which may speak to him directly. We should all study this particular weapon, if only to better understand the minds of the president and his dead-ender followers -
I apparently am doing a poor job of expressing my position - This website does not support a preemptive invasion of Iraq, nor does this website favor "imperialism" in any sense of the word.  Nor does this website believe in any Clash of Civilizations.  Nor is this website "a validation for ongoing war"  because Jesus Himself said " My kingdom is not of this world : if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight.. " (John 18:36). The obvious implication of this statement by Jesus is that we are NOT to fight to promote His Kingdom, least of all by " imperialism ."  True believers hate war and look forward to the day when the Lord does away with war (Isa 2:4).  I have personally never been a fan of invading Iraq and neither do I know any thoughtful believers who relish the idea of "ongoing war ."

Because of this misunderstanding of the position of true believers, I have also regretted the use of the words "evil doers" and "good versus evil" attributed to politicians, including our president and so-called conservative Bible teachers. [Many of them highly visible, and not so visible, are politically coopted and are working inadvertently? with the "bad guys".  Look for these "Bible weirdos" to "prove" the gentleman's "ongoing war" thesis .]   I have warned repeatedly of thinking too highly of ourselves . I have warned repeatedly about the disaster that awaits the proud and I fear our nation is headed in that direction. When I hear some of our citizenry calling for war against all people of any religion, it makes me fearful.  I know this is not in the traditions of the America that I once knew.  When I hear us refer to another religion as "evil doers", it is no cause for celebration, but trepidation.  Do not follow men - regardless of their "religious" reputation.  Follow the Lord.  Do not get caught up in vengeance and changing the world to suit your viewpoint. Those that seek to make "God's Kingdom" on earth, before the King returns and does it Himself,  are deluded.  It is up to the Lord only.  Before we run off and fix the Middle East and the world, we better "fix" ourselves .

As I said previously, "If you find errors in this study, the author awaits your correction and stands ready to be corrected ."   If believing I could be wrong about my analysis and believing the Bible is always true is "pomposity ", then I plead guilty as charged.  I am nothing but your servant.  [As far as "the mind of the president " is concerned, I will offer this question - if the President has the same perspective as this website- Armageddon will eventuate and 50 percent of the world's population will be killed in two judgments alone, would he invade Iraq?  Absolutely not.]  The real reason the President attacked Iraq is that he was persuaded by the neo-cons he trusted that it was "furthering democracy in the Middle East" (the exoteric neo-con vision; the esoteric neo-con necessity is " ongoing war ").  These men, who have the confidence of the President, who probably do not believe the Bible at all, are the ones promoting "ongoing war" and that is why they are referred to as the War Party in some circles.  Consequently, Bible believing has absolutely nothing to do with "ongoing war ."   Quoting the counterpunch page -

Revelation does not instruct its believing reader to favor this or that policy option. I assume there are believers who are thoroughly against the war on Iraq. But believers energized by anticipation of a glorious new world on the horizon, and by the belief that they are participating in prophesized events, may become particularly apt to place blind faith in an aggressive Good vs. Evil foreign policy. They should be informed that beneath the simplistic religious justification for the "war on terrorism" (including the war in Iraq, which the Bush administration sees as the central battlefield of the "war on terrorism," but which many scholars and officials regard as an entirely separate phenomenon) there is a layer of carefully researched and presented strategy papers authored by the prophetic neocons. These neoconservatives have led the administration in producing regime change in Afghanistan, invading and occupying Iraq, deferring in unprecedented fashion to Israeli policy while demanding changes in the Palestinian Authority and severing ties with Yassir Arafat.

I agree with the above paragraph, except I find comical any reference to the neocons as "prophetic."   Further, the claim that "war on terrorism" has a "religious justification " is false and is part of the Clash of Civilizations paradigm..  Quoting further the counterpunch page-
This is the problem. Leo Strauss's [the intellectual "father" of the neo-cons according to many] thought divides humanity into three types: the wise, the gentlemen, and the vulgar. The wise use deception (noble lies) to attain their ends, using gentlemen (who are not wise but who are powerful) to control the masses. Religion is a vital tool in controlling the masses ("as lambs to the slaughter"), and the non-believing wise can also use it to manipulate "gentlemen. " Revelation, at the hands of the wise, gentle or vulgar, is among the world's most easily manipulated of books; the wise can do it best.   [emphasis added]
Does the counterpunch author believe that the neo-cons quoted/interpreted the Book of Revelation to the president to motivate him to invade Iraq?  I doubt this, but, if true, I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall to hear it.  If this did happen, then, the president was lied to and I stand corrected.  If it did happen, it was not due to Bible believing, but, Bible quoting, which is quite different.  True believers are not bellicose.  If it did happen, it could well be for the purpose of turning the world against the Biblical fundamentalists,  which can also be effectuated by saying the motive for the "war on terror" has a " religious justification ".  If the "war on terrorism" has any " religious justification ", it is not the "religion" of this website.

So my question is this - what is " wise [men's]" "deception" which has resulted in promoting religious conflict and "ongoing war "?   Does this website promote or justify a religious war?  Certainly not.  However, does fixing the blame on those who "manipulate " the Book of Revelation to "control the masses" and, launch " war on terrorism " point the finger at a religious enemy?  Clearly such an assertion leads directly to the condemnation of Biblical fundamentalists as the real enemy of the Islamic world and the ultimate cause of "ongoing war."  Nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, such condemnation when argued by some is a deliberate strategy .

If you read this entire website, you will find the following question posed and answered numerous times: What are we to DO? Answer- Nothing, but get right with the Lord .    

Newsflash - It is manipulators of the Book of Revelation who are behind all the conflict.  Those who believe the Bible are manipulated into action.  We have got it straight now - the Almighty is so weak He needs manipulated believers eager to fulfill prophecy. These "believers" are atypical. Apparently, they do not know the God we know. When it comes to avoiding having to deal with the difficult issue of the sovereignty of Almighty God, commentators invent strange theories.   

Some commentators take advantage of the President's "shirt sleeve religion" and make his religion a straw man. This tactic is identical to calling Muslims "evil doers" - the same reason for which the President is condemned by the same commentators.  Now, as predicted on this website, the believers themselves are, in effect, being called "evil doers" because we supposedly believe in war to promote our religion. This "logic" makes the President and his " dead-ender followers" (apparently fundamentalist extremists all, and hazarding a guess, "terrorists" as well) guilty of " imperialism ."  Nothing could be further from the truth (probably on both counts; I can not speak for the President, but, I can speak for this believer and many other believers I know.)  

Neither is this website "thoroughly at peace with contemporary imperialism" (or any other imperialism for that matter).  What is happening in the world saddens everyone, especially me. However, those that refer to believers as people in support of Armageddon do not understand the believers. [ I guess the major difference between a believer's logic and that of the world is this- the non believers actually think nothing is caused by anyone other than themselves, i.e., mortal men. Believers on the other hand know we are nothing. So, we do not attempt to be something we are not. We are to wait on the Lord and nothing else .] We are "strangers and pilgrims" on this earth.  We are glad the Lord is coming and we are going home.  However, not a day goes by that we do not feel for those who must face what is coming, which will include the "tribulation saints ."  It is for YOU that I am writing today.   The Lord is everything.  I (on the other hand) am nothing but dirt.

Though not at peace with "contemporary imperialism ", I am thoroughly at peace with the Lord Jesus Christ.  I encourage you to take a serious look at what is happening in the light of prophecy and accept Him yourself .   I love you and I want you to know that what is happening is lining up with Bible prophecy.  Yes, I do run the risk of being accused of " seducing the gullible", " pseudo-scientific precision " and "snake-oil salemanship ", but, I am willing to take that risk because I love you.  I never claimed (read above) that my analysis was 100% correct. But does it have to be (as they say) "close enough for government work" to warrant your personal attention?  I do, however, claim that the Bible is the Word of the Living God and you would do well to listen to it .

While you are "study[ing] this particular "weapon"[the commentator's description of the Bible], if only to better understand the minds of the president and his dead-ender followers ",  study this - God Himself is In Charge, not Us .   If you did read that link, you now know it AIN'T us that did it.   ;-)           Even the Lord has a sense of humor.  See the 2nd Psalm verse 4.    

And while you contemplate "authoritative pomposity " consider this "For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God. " (Romans 14:11).  What will we all confess?  " That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father ." (Phillipians 2:10-11)   You and I will confess this.  The question is - will we confess joyfully today or will we wait until it is too late?   Whosoever shall fall [in dependence] upon this stone [Jesus Christ] shall be broken  [humbled]: but on whomsoever it shall fall [in judgment], it will grind him to powder . (Mathew 21:44)  What will it be for you?

One other thing - since the facts of the current world situation are so close to the Biblical account, people are finding it necessary to refer to the description of the current world situation on this website as " snake-oil salemanship" in order to avoid dealing with the following real possibility - the Bible is actually history written in advance .  We thank them for pointing out this possibility to the reader.  There is NOTHING any mortal man can do to bring Bible prophecy to pass and there is NOTHING any mortal man can do to stop Bible prophecy from coming to pass.  Such is the nature of the sovereign Almighty God. 

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