East-West Religious Reunification OR Clash of Civilizations

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The choice between two alternatives is stated succinctly on the following website:

(1) East-West Religious unity

OR

(2) the Clash of Civilizations

http://www.eppc.org/publications/xq/ASP/pubsID.300/qx/pubs_viewdetail.htm

A “clash of civilizations ” or a “ Europe that breathes again with both its lungs?” A lot of the history of the twenty-first century—and most particularly the future of Russia, which can only pull out of its catastrophic social and economic nose-dive by closer cooperation with the West—will depend on whether Samuel Huntington or Karol Wojtyla is the more acute student of European cultural history.

Huntington is the author of the Clash of Civilizations and Karol Wojtyla is Pope John Paul II.  So, either Rome gets its long desired reunification with (control of?) the East  -  OR  -  we have the Clash of Civilizations described by Huntington .

Hence, the "peace process" includes (for the Vatican) achieving Rome's long desired objective: preeminence over the Orthodox Church, Islam, and especially the Jerusalem Holy Sites.  By virtue of posing the question in the form of two alternatives, one to be avoided (war), the other resulting in the preeminence of the Roman Catholic Church over the East, we see that the Islamic war with the West benefits the Roman Catholic Church.  Once you understand this concept, you can begin to understand the "fornication with the kings of the earth " in the book of Revelation.  In fact, Huntington goes out of his way to deny that which no one was asserting -

"Defenders of Islam often allege that its Western critics believe there is a central, conspiratorial, directing force in Islam mobilizing it and coordinating its actions against the West and others.  If the critics believe this, they are wrong."  
 -  Page 264 of the Clash of Civilizations
 
Interesting, indeed.  "Me thinks he doth protest too much [in advance]."  If what Huntington is trying to deny is true and Islamic leadership undertakes (via the eventual antichrist and the ten-king confederation) the enforcement of "peace" (which is the equivalent to the destruction of terrorism, Hamas, Jihad, and warring against some of their own Islamic peoples), and the ten kings discover duplicity at the Vatican on this topic, will they not "hate the whore?"

The vision of Nebuchadnezzar (interpreted by Daniel) of Rome dividing into 2 "legs" representing the East and West empires was history written in advance, which has already been fulfilled upon the division of Rome.  

The reunification process of the 2 "legs'" is a RELIGIOUS reunification ATTEMPT.  In this sense only is the term "Revived Roman Empire" applicable.  The real political endtime militarily powerful "beast" is specifically identified in the Bible .  See also the study of the TEN Kings .  This political empire is not said to reign over the entire world. [The expression "all the earth" is applied to Alexander the Great's empire in Dan 2:39, but no one maintains that Alexander ruled "all the earth."  The expression refers to potential.]  The entire world comes into play only when WORSHIP is enforced in Revelation 13.  Prior to Rev 13, the whole world will have changed dramatically.
1) The Rapture will have happened removing many from the earth.
2) The Gog War of Ezek 38-39 will have destroyed nations and people
3) Two judgments will have killed 50% of the then remaining earth's population (Rev 6:8 and Rev 8:7-11)
      If 1/4 is destroyed in Rev 6:8, this leaves 3/4.  If 1/3 of these dies, this represents another 1/4 of
      the original amount.        1/4+1/4=1/2

The religious movement will only take effect in the person of the antichrist and upon initiation and as a direct result of the actions of the FALSE PROPHET.  Revelation 13:5 says that "he (false prophet) had power...and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed."  Therefore, the false prophet is in charge of WORSHIP ENFORCEMENT.

It is said in Rev 13:7 (of the antichrist) that "it was GIVEN unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was GIVEN him over all kindreds, tongues, and nations."

The Bible does say that mandatory universal worship of the IMAGE will be forced upon ALL men with death as the alternative for those who refuse .  Right now, on the earth, is there a religious institution with a worldwide presence?  Has this religious institution been historically connected with intelligence operations and politics?  Read here and here for the answers.   Is this religious institution wealthy, powerful, and influential in world power politics? Did this institution sign an agreement with Yassar Arafat and the Palestinian Liberation Organization c. 2000 (after the pope personally received Arafat)? Therefore, does this institution have an established relationship with the "palestinians?"  Does this institution have as its objective East-West religious unification (the quote above from eppc.org says YES) with the institution itself being recognized as THE "church?" ( Malachi Martin says YES to the second part here ).
 
Would the world not require an "enemy" to fight in order to justify the construction of a police state?  Is such an enemy, terrorism , not already THE enemy?  Are there not already emergent institutions to combat terrorism, such as Homeland Security, etc?  Could these institutions (along with martial law) be used in the future to, at first, protect from terrorism, and later, to enforce religious conformity if they came into the hands of "angry" leadership?  The Bible says this very thing will happen when religious worship is forced.

Malachi Martin says that the Vatican is a "geopolitical power tool "  (pg. 31)  This means a WORLD political power TOOL.

[For those who say that Babylon the Great is an "amalgam" of apostate denominations, when is the last time any of these denominations collectively or individually- a) signed an agreement with the PLO?  b) has had an ambassador in virtually every country in the world?  c) has been directly involved in the overthrow of communism in Poland? (Feb 28, 1992 cover story of Time Magazine )  d) has a Secretary of State? e) has personally received virtually EVERY major player in the Mideast endgame at her headquarters since 2000 (including the likes of Bush, Arafat, King Hussein; not to mention Bush #1, Ronald Reagan, Putin, and Gorbachev)?  d) has actually been and IS a politically recognized nation ?  e) has been the target of CIA and KGB power grabs?  f) has been the actual hub of CIA intelligence for virtually the first 20 years of the Cold War?]

Revelation 13:15   And he (false prophet) had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

Perhaps, as the Clash of Civilizations unfolds ("that they should kill one another", Rev 6:4), control will be exerted over the population to force an "ethical" code. See the remarks of Prince Hassan from Jordan as an example of "ethical standards ."  Remember, before this begins, all the then believers (from any culture or denomination) will have been removed from the earth.  There will be true believers removed from the earth from all "religions" and there will many unbelievers left behind from all "religions."   "Religion" saves NO ONE.

At the instant following the rapture , NOT ONE person on earth will have the Holy Spirit in him. Men are naturally sinful.  Without the Spirit of God restraining men, the worst of men will emerge. They already have "terrorism" to make them fearful.

Those who become believers AFTER the rapture will do so as martyrs.  Those who do not become believers will participate in the persecution of tribulations "saints" (through the enforcement of the "ethical" code.)

John 16:2 ...yea, the time cometh that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.

Please remember that those who will be persecuted are the ones who will BELIEVE the Bible true.  This realization will hit the tribulation believers once the prophesied events (which they may have heard but had not believed) begin to unfold.  The criticism of these people has already begun.  What form does the criticism take?  It is anti- "fundamentalism" and anti- "dispensationalism" and anti-"extremism".   ["Dispensationalists" are those who believe in the LITERAL 7-year tribulation and the literal interpretation of the books of Daniel and Revelation.  Some critics refer to the "dispensationalists" as strict chart followers, as having rigid viewpoints, etc.  If you search the net, these critics are abundant.]  

In the book Clash of Civilizations the "Fundamental reformers" from among the Protestants are equated with the "fundamental reformers" of  Islam thusly;

p 111 "Lutheranism and Calvinism, Shi'ite and Sunni fundamentalism, and even parallels between John Calvin and the Ayatollah Khomeini ... the central Spirit of both the Reformation and the [Islamic] Resurgence is fundamental reform.."

Events will soon occur in which "Reformational fundamentalists" will be blamed for performing "terrorism," maybe not on the scale of 9-11, but anti-social acts worthy of condemnation.   People from weird religious cults will be identified as "christian fundamentalists" and they will commit kidnappings etc. The author's advice is do nothing except get right with the Lord.

03-16-2003
If you doubt that this can occur, consider that the intellectual elite discuss such topics in the public forum, because it has already happened.

On a popular conservative radio talk show on May 18, 1993 the host said the media is viewing "us" as all being "religious weirdos ."  The host did not want to discuss Waco [and David Koresh] at all on his show, saying it meant "nothing" to him.  This conversation took place the day after an article appeared in the National Review .

This might be a little easier to understand if one considers the message behind the article "A Brief History of the End of Time ," by Paul Boyer, in the National Review, of May 17, 1993.   In this article, subtitled, "The American Roots of the Branch Davidians ," it is shown that Koreshism, when viewed broadly as the Biblical view of the Second Coming, is a basically held general belief in the US. 

The inference one can make here is that those that believe in the Biblical view of the Second Coming are potentially David Koresh type individuals.  Since the Biblical view of the Second Coming is a basically held general belief in the US, then, the US citizenry are potentially David Koreshes.  One wonders if the Islamic world is being told this same thing.  One thing we know for sure is that the West is being told these types of things about Islam.

The attitude toward "Koreshism" may explain what Clinton meant when he said, after Waco, that we need to be prepared to "do this again ." [I was shocked when he said this and even more shocked when no one objected]. In Carroll Quigley's 1000+ pages book Tragedy and Hope of 1966, Quigley purports to reveal the Hope that one day a World Order will be established.  The Tragedy in Quigley's book is what happens to those who resist the World Order.  During his speech accepting the nomination for the presidency at the Democratic Convention, Mr. Clinton expressed admiration for Carroll Quigley, his mentor and a professor of 35 years at Georgetown University, Mr. Clinton's alma mater.  Apparently the elite are being educated to believe that the "fundamentalists" oppose the World Order and are willing to fight to stop it.  This anti-fundamentalist education of the elite has been going on for decades and is a bold-faced lie.  True believers in Christ are NOT of this world and have no desire regarding the "world" and its direction.  Praise God for the New World Order because Christ is coming soon!

Remember, if the Almighty allows a World Order, who are we to try and stop it?  God is in charge.  Our only task is believe God before it is too late.  The sole purpose of this website is to warn people of the coming events in the hope that they accept Christ as their saviour.  The elite can have the World and do anything they wish with it.  We are NOT to oppose any World Order. The elite, too, will find out that their boss is really a fallen angel, Satan.  Hopefully some of the elite will learn the truth before it is too late for them.
End 03-16-2003

03-30-2003
From the website- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A49390-2003Mar29.html
we read -  (from a Reuters report)
VATICAN CITY, March 29 -- Pope John Paul II said today he hoped that the human tragedy of the war in Iraq would not set Christians and Muslims against each other and spark "a religious catastrophe. "

"War must never be allowed to divide world religions ," he told visiting Roman Catholic bishops from Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim country. The pope said good inter-religious relations were important "at this moment of heightened tension in the entire world community ."

"Let us not permit a human tragedy to become a religious catastrophe ," he said.
end 03-30-2003



FORNICATION

People write and say that Babylon the Great is the city Babylon in Iraq or they say that Babylon the Great is the United States (because of its wealth and influence).  My question is how can you commit "fornication" with the Kings of the earth if you ARE a king of the earth?  Implicit in the idea of "fornication" is that a religious "woman" is prostituting herself for advantage with the Kings of the earth.


The following is a list of verses, from the Book of Revelation, containing the word fornication.  Please note the facts concerning this fornication .
a) "wine" is associated with the fornication .
b) "wrath" is associated with the fornication

What is meant by this "wine"?  "Wine" impairs your judgment.  In Rev 17:2 it says the "inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication ."    In Rev 14:8 it says that "she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication."  What is being said here is that ALL NATIONS have been deceived DELIBERATELY by the woman.  Is this "wine" some religious doctrine?  If fornication occurs when a religious "woman" has an illicit relation with a King, it is not a doctrinal matter.  It is a political matter. To further her postion, she gains the ear of the King and influences him to do her bidding.  Whatever her objective is (and self promotion is the root of it all), she can convince the King to pursue her objective.  She can hire scholars, professors, and think-tanks to convince the King and "the inhabitants of the earth" that a thing is true. For example, she can convince the King her enemies are harming the King and his subjects. She can hire politicians that support her causes and place them in the court of the King.  The Bible says she has the financial means to do this -  "the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies."  It has been said (by Will Rogers) that we have the best politicians money can buy.  [ For example, the "merchants " can destroy the industrial capacity of the United States by moving the factories overseas and call it patriotic while they are doing it (with the assistance of the Congress).    My personal hope is not in the industrial capacity of the United States, but in the Lord Jesus Christ.  Politicians can have a virtually completely open immigration policy while declaring "orange terrorist alerts".]

What is meant by the "wrath"?  Apparently, the woman is angry .  She is angry at her enemies. The phrase "wine of her wrath " is used to show that she gives the inhabitants of the earth "wine" BECAUSE she is angry.  An entire book was published expressing this "anger" toward the capitalist west (and the "archvillain of all human history", particularly, the United States) and the former Soviet Union.  The book shows how the papacy seeks primacy over these two.  Read quotes from the book here .

If you read the following verses carefully, you can see a progression.  Omit 14:8 from the chronology because it is announcing in advance the eventual destruction of Babylon the Great.  Hence, it is not chronological.  Revelation 17:2 says "wine" and Rev 18:3 says "wine of the wrath."    Revelation 17 is the discussion of the IDENTITY of the woman (ending with the phrase "that great city ") and Revelation 18 is discussing the judgment of the woman.  The judgment occurs in conjunction with the phrase "wrath."

What begins with the "wine of her fornication " progresses to and ends with the "wine of the wrath of her fornication."

Revelation 14:8   And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication .

Revelation 17:2   With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication .

Revelation 17:4   And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

Revelation 18:3   For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication , and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

Revelation 18:9   And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,

Revelation 19:2   For true and righteous are his judgments: for he hath judged the great whore, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand.



BLASPHEMY

From the Merriam-Webster dictionary we find the definition of the word blasphemy.
blasphemy-
1 a : the act of insulting or showing contempt or lack of reverence for God     b : the act of claiming the attributes of deity

One of the attributes of deity is authority and for those of us who are "dust" there is no more important issue than authority. King Saul will tell you that authority is more important than religion.  King Saul lost his throne when he deemed religious sacrifice to God more important than the authority of God.

From the now deceased Malachi Martin's book (for a more detailed view of quotes from the book ), The Keys of this Blood, Struggle for World Dominion...  we read

According to Martin, a Jesuit and former professor at the Pontifical Bible Institute in Rome, John Paul II does or should-
"In ALL phases of education, in ALL aspects of moral behavior, and in ALL questions about the ultimate truths undergirding the life and death of every human being, this man claims for his papal persona the right, the privilege, the duty, and the due authority to stand as JUDGE.  None of the Internationalist-Transnationalist ideals are outside that claim or exempt from that judgment" (* emphasis added).  (p. 345)

Martin said - duty, and the due authority to stand as JUDGE

Martin says John Paul II -
"will be crowned with a success never registered in the life of any preceding Pope ... in effect, in the sight of all nations, his AUTHORITY ... will be declared in the skies ABOVE EVERY NATION.. ."  (* emphasis added). (p. 464-465)

Further, Martin says-
"The other two major contenders in the millennium endgame will be ELIMINATED "   (* emphasis added).  (p. 657)


According to Martin the Pope believes that -
"[He] is waiting.  God must first intervene, before John Paul's major ministry to all men can start." (p. 656)

"... the tribulations will follow..." (p. 657)
"he cannot but emerge as the most powerful man alive in his time " (p. 483)

If the Pope (or his successor) believes he is to become "the most powerful man alive in his time", he? sure has picked an interesting time to become such a man.

The point being made here is that the "beast" (the political endtime entity) has seven heads and ten horns and it has the name of blasphemy on it.   To see documentation on who the ten horns are read this study .  The ten horns are ten kings who rise in the area of  Iraq/Jordan and surrounding nations.  

Look carefully at what is being said- "upon his heads the name of blasphemy ."  In other words the blasphemy originates on the heads, not with the ten kings, the horns .   This is true upon the initial appearance of the beast in Revelation 13:1.  Later, the blasphemy on the heads has spread so that the whole beast is "full of names of blasphemy ."

Revelation 13:1   And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

(Rev 13:1 shows us that blasphemy originates with the seven heads. At this time it has only ONE name.)

Revelation 13:6   And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

(Rev 13:6 shows that the antichrist himself takes up the blasphemy theme.)

Revelation 17:3   So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy , having seven heads and ten horns.

(Rev 17:3 shows us that the entire beast becomes full of names of blasphemy making more than ONE name of blasphemy.  Because the "woman " "sitteth upon many waters" (Rev 17:1) which represent "peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues"(Rev 17:15), she has the power to spread and enforce the blasphemy of the pronouncements of the antichrist on a worldwide basis.

Regardless of the precise meaning of the seven heads (and there are numerous interpretations for this), we know that they are the sphere of influence of the "woman", not the ten kings because this is expressly stated in Rev 17:9.
Revelation 17:9   And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

When John on the isle of Patmos (c. 90AD) wrote Rev 17:18, that great city was unquestionably Rome. 
Revelation 17:18   And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth .

Who else is decked in scarlet, precious stones, and is drunk with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus that is also a great city?

The Vatican has had a history of switching sides in conflicts when it sees that its interests can be better served.  The rise of antichrist AMONG the TEN KINGS and the TEN KINGS themselves will be no exception for the "woman."


The following discussion describes the POLITICAL end times "beast".   The above discussion was related to the role of the Vatican as Babylon the Great.

The Prophecy from Daniel
Daniel did not even know what the dream of Nebuchadnezzar was, but, he was asked to interpret the dream.  After Daniel asked the Lord and received his answer, he told Nebuchadnezzar what his dream was:

Daniel 2:31   Thou, O king, sawest, and behold a great image. This great image, whose brightness was excellent, stood before thee; and the form thereof was terrible.

Daniel 2:32   This image's head was of fine gold , his breast and his arms of silver, his belly and his thighs of brass ,

Daniel 2:33   His legs of iron, his feet part of iron and part of clay.

Daniel 2:34   Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out without hands, which smote the image upon his feet that were of iron and clay, and brake them to pieces.

Daniel 2:35   Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.

Daniel 2:36   This is the dream; and we will tell the interpretation thereof before the king.



Daniel now interprets the dream which is in effect a history of the Gentile world.


The Head is the Kingdom of BABYLON
Daniel 2:37   Thou, O king, art a king of kings: for the God of heaven hath given thee a kingdom, power, and strength, and glory.

Daniel 2:38   And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven hath he given into thine hand, and hath made thee ruler over them all. Thou art this head of gold.

The 2nd Kingdom (ARMS) is the MEDIA-PERSIA kingdom that conquered Babylon
Daniel 2:39   And after thee shall arise another kingdom inferior to thee, ...

The 3rd Kingdom (BELLY) is The Grecian of Alexander the Great  who conquered the Media-Persia
...and another third kingdom of brass, which shall bear rule over all the earth.

The 4th Kingdom (LEGS) is the Roman Empire
Daniel 2:40   And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise.

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THE LAST DAYS FORM of the So-Called Roman Empire
It will actually be more Grecian than Roman .    See also a study of the ten "toes" or "kings."

Daniel 2:41   And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided ; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay .

Daniel 2:42   And as the toes [10] of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken.

Daniel 2:43   And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

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Jesus Christ Returns to Destroy the Final Form of the Gentile Nations

Daniel 2:44   And in the days of these kings [10] shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms , and it shall stand for ever.

Daniel 2:45   Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands [Jesus Christ] , and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold ; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.


Since Christ destroys ALL THESE KINGDOMS at His Coming, does this not include the AREAS of the Kingdoms - Babylon, Media-Persia, Grecian, and the Ten-King Confederacy?

You have read of  the prophecy of Daniel concerning a political ten toed beast.  Its location is outlined in the link below.

  read about the Location of the Political Beast .


03-01-2004
From the following website (the English version of the Official Website of the Russian Orthodox Church)
http://www.mospat.ru/text/e_news/id/6394.html
We read:
Communique on the meeting of Mitropolitan Kirill and Cardinal Walter Kasper

On 19 February 2004, in Moscow, a meeting took place between the Chairman of the Department for External Church Relations of the Patriarchate of Moscow, Metropolitan of Smolensk and Kaliningrad, Kirill, and the President of the Pontifical Council for the Promotion of Christian Unity , Cardinal Walter Kasper. In the course of their conversations, the parties considered the matters at issue in relations between the Russian Orthodox Church and the Roman Catholic Church, especially in Russia and in Ukraine. In particular, Cardinal Kasper confirmed that the Holy See had received the written response of the Russian Orthodox Church on the possible establishment of a Greek-Catholic Patriarchate in Ukraine, as well as the responses of all the local Orthodox Churches on this question.

Cardinal Kasper indicated that the unanimous position of all the Orthodox  Churches is being given serious consideration by the authorities of the Catholic Church. The Catholic party assured the Orthodox party that it is the wish of the Holy See to maintain and further strengthen positive relations with the Orthodox Churches. Both sides agreed that for the solution of specific issues in relations between the Russian Orthodox and the Roman Catholic Churches a joint working group should be set up, composed of representatives of both Churches who will examine these questions and make proposals for their solution. 


Since the year 1054 AD (the year both the Orthodox Church and the Roman Catholic Church declared themselves the sole universal church), Rome has sought to exert control over the East.  The struggle continues.

End 03-01-2004


09-12-2005

from the website-
http://newsfromrussia.com/world/2005/09/12/62730.html
we read how the Islamic leader most favored by the West meets with the current Pope, Benedict XVI, for the purpose of
developing honest dialogue between the Islamic world and the West
in order to reject attempts by extremists to create a clash of civilizations between Islam and the West

This article confirms what we have said all along - the Clash of Civilizations will be "avoided" by increasing the influence of the Vatican over the rising "solution" provider in the Middle East. The "visit" described below demonstrates the King's submission to the Vatican's authority.  Is it possible that this relationship could lead to the rise of the false prophet?

Pope Benedict XVI met Monday with Jordan's King Abdullah II, who called the talks a positive step in developing honest dialogue between the Islamic world and the West.

Abdullah said in an opinion piece published Monday in the Corriere della Sera newspaper that his audience with the pope was part of the effort to build a dialogue between Islam and the West and that it "will take forward a positive and respectful dialogue between our two faiths."

Benedict has echoed similar themes in past comments about terrorism and relations with Muslims, the AP says.

Abdullah and his wife, Queen Rania, met with the pope at the papal summer residence in Castel Gandolfo, south of Rome.

In his editorial, Abdullah called on the international community to reject attempts by extremists to create a clash of civilizations between Islam and the West.

He said such a clash weakens efforts to bring peace and prosperity to the world.

"All of us must assume the responsibility to reject hatred, ignorance and violence," Abdullah said. "This requires an honest and continuous dialogue between the West and the Islamic world."

During his meeting with Muslim leaders last month in Cologne, Germany, the pope invited Muslims to join Christians in trying to combat the spread of terrorism and "turn back the wave of cruel fanaticism" behind it.

Abdullah said Jordan's government had launched an initiative, the "Amman Message," which calls on Muslims to reject extremism, embrace moderation and tolerate other religions. He said the initiative sought to "unite the voices of moderation that constitute the majority of Muslims here in Italy, in Jordan and across the world."


End 09-12-2005


09-14-2005

Here we have the ultimate objective succinctly stated.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/9/13/203009.shtml

Jordan's King Urges Interfaith Cooperation to Avoid 'Clash of Civilizations'
NewsMax.com Wires
Wednesday, Sept. 14, 2005
WASHINGTON -- Jordan's King Abdullah II, speaking Tuesday at a Roman Catholic university, urged interfaith cooperation to confront those trying to bring about a "clash of civilizations" among Muslims, Jews and Christians.

King Abdullah II said responsible leaders of all religions have denounced hatred and violence, "but there are those who think otherwise; who believe that there is, or will be, a clash of civilizations.


End 09-14-2005


09-20-2005

If you think I was inventing the notion that the merger of Islam-Catholicism, i.e., East and West, was the real purpose of starting  the Clash of Civilizations problem, you are running out of options, dear friend.  This will knock you down.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/13/AR2005091301810.html

Jordan's King Abdullah Pushes for Moderation

Monarch Seeks 'Real Acceptance' Among Faiths

Six years after inheriting the throne, Jordan's King Abdullah II has picked up his father's mantle as a leading voice of moderate Islam, calling for the "quiet majority" of Muslims to "take back our religion from the vocal, violent and ignorant extremists," in a speech yesterday at Catholic University.

Cardinal Theodore E. McCarrick of Washington told the king that "you have said things that we have looked forward to hearing from major Muslim leaders" and, in a reciprocal gesture, offered a concluding prayer "in the name of Allah, the merciful and compassionate."

See also
http://publicaffairs.cua.edu/news/06KingofJordanUpdate.htm

WASHINGTON, D.C. – King Abdullah II, monarch of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, delivered an address: “Traditional Islam: The Path to Peace” at The Catholic University of America Columbus School of Law at noon on Tuesday, Sept. 13.

More than 350 people filled the law building’s William J. Byron, S.J. Auditorium, where the address was delivered. Very Rev. David M. O’Connell, C.M., president, and law school Dean Veryl V. Miles introduced the Jordanian leader, and Cardinal Theodore McCarrick, archbishop of Washington and CUA chancellor, delivered closing remarks and a prayer.

Links to the King’s remarks and a video of the event can be found below:
(a link is provided)

...

The Sept. 13 lecture was the only official address given by King Abdullah II during his two-day swing through Washington. En route to the United States, King Abdullah also met with Pope Benedict XVI to build on the relations that Jordan had established with Pope John Paul II, and to discuss ways in which Muslims and Christians can continue to work together for peace, tolerance and coexistence.


See also, oops, it has been deleted-
http://publicaffairs.cua.edu/speeches/06McCarrickRemarksJordan.htm

Catholic Cardinal Publicly Prays To Allah

"Traditional Islam: The Path to Peace"
Remarks by Cardinal Theodore McCarrick to King Abdullah II of Jordan
Archbishop of Washington and CUA Chancellor

Your Majesty,

A few months ago, when I was privileged to pray for you on another occasion in this capital city, I asked Allah, the compassionate and merciful Lord of all the world, to bless you and to help you make your country a bridge across which all nations might walk in unity, fellowship and love. As I listened to your words today, I believe my prayer is being answered.

see also-
http://www.royalarchive.com/content/view/1232/2/

"The historic significance is, a Muslim head of state is affirming that we are all part of the same religious tradition, the Judeo-Christian-Islamic tradition," said Joseph Lumbard, the king's American-born adviser on interfaith affairs.


Friends, we are living in the last days.  Do you know relatives and friends who are lost?  Warn them.

End 09-20-2005


02-23-2006

In the book Dollars for Terrorism (in which the author, Labeviere, conducts interviews to discover how the real money flows work)  , published in 1999, on page 143, it says that a well-connected (and unnamed) banking official in Switzerland

prefers to turn the conversation back to the great intention of his life as an indefatigable lecturer and propagandist of political Islam, to wit, what he calls the "great unification," that of Islam and the Christian West... Recently, he went to Chicago for a discreet congress that brought together the "authentic Right and the fighters for Islam," and he says that "major decisions were taken ... the reunification is under way."

Do you think the Christian West refers to the Southern Baptist Convention or the Presbyterian Church in America?  On page 145 of this same book, published in 1999, it says that Hamas is to supplant the PLO.  Hamas did so this year.  The above paragraph is a microcosm of the grand strategy (great unification) being carried out right before our eyes.  What were the banker's dollars doing?  Supporting the Clash of Civilizations, of course.  What is the purpose of the Clash?  To bring about the great unification which is under way.  The unification of Islam must be with Babylon the Great.   One of the victims will be the archvillain of all human history, the expression Malachi Martin used to describe the Vatican II view of the United States in his epic book Keys of this Blood.

End 02-23-2006


08-17-2006

http://www.biblebelievers.com/tetlow/queenofall01.html
A new book is out called Queen of All by Jim Tetlow.  Below are some quotes.  The point of all this is that The Queen of All concept enables the unification of Catholicism and Islam.  That is what the East-West unification is all about, the promotion of Catholicism among the Muslims.  Could the image of Rev 13 have anything to do with Mary appartitions?

She appears as a living, breathing, three-dimensional lady enveloped in exquisite light. Visionaries and seers describe a beautiful, young woman glowing in radiant splendor. Seers, while describing her as brilliant to behold and arrayed with every splendor, admit that the "Queen of Heaven" transcends human description.

Numerous healings and miracles have been reported at apparition sites around the globe. In addition, the apparition of the Blessed Virgin Mary has repeatedly announced that her most significant signs and wonders are yet future! She admits that she has not yet revealed her full glory to the world. She predicts heavenly signs and wonders that the whole world will soon witness. Consider the following messages received by three separate visionaries:

My sign is emerging. God wills it thus. Only my children recognize it, as it reveals itself in secrecy, and they praise the Eternal One for it. Today I cannot reveal my power to the whole world. I must withdraw with my children. In secrecy I will perform miracles on the souls until the number of sacrifices has become full. ?Then I can reveal myself to the whole world?

Soon, I will come, my children! Soon, I will be in your midst with a great light. I will enlighten the entire world. Many souls will cry because they did not listen to my call. ?I will pass above everyone in a cloud and everyone will see me. What will become of those who insulted me and made a laughing stock of me? ?I will come soon, my sons, to travel through the entire world. I will give a great sign in the sky for those who will still want to be saved. All those who have recourse to me, who have a look of repentance, this will be sufficient to save them.
I wish to also tell you that before my apparitions end completely, I shall be seen by every denomination and religion throughout this world.  I will be seen among all people, not for just a moment, but everyone will have a chance to see me. As I appeared in Zeitoun, I shall appear again so everyone may see me.  Pray and help my plans to be realized, not just here, but throughout the world

Dear children, today I invite you to peace. I have come here as the Queen of Peace and I desire to enrich you with my Motherly Peace.... I invite you to become carriers and witnesses of my peace to this unpeaceful world. Let peace rule in the whole world.

In another message, Mary told the seers: "Tell this priest, tell everyone, that it is you who are divided on earth. The Muslims and the Orthodox, for the same reason as Catholics, are equal before my Son and I. You are all my children."  Mary's message of peace, unity, and tolerance is one that a distressed and perplexed world craves.

Try to understand the reason for My coming on this day. The Lord Jesus Christ has selected this great day for "the Lady of All Nations." Her mission is to establish unity among Her nations. She is sent to make one great Community of Her nations. To gather all nations into one Community, that is the task set before the world in this present time, which I have heralded repeatedly.

Life explains that Mary's popularity is not just among Catholics: "One of the intriguing aspects of the latest rise of Mary is this: The emotional need for her is so irresistible to a troubled world that people without an obvious link to the Virgin are being drawn to her. It's not news that Muslims revere Mary as a pure and holy saint -- she's mentioned 34 times in the Koran, ?but to see large numbers of Muslims making pilgrimages to Christian Marian shrines is a remarkable thing. Interdenominational Marian prayer groups are springing up throughout the world."

See also http://www.chick.com/catalog/books/1255.asp

Mary...Millions of Catholics travel to shrines to pray before her image. But what is not commonly known is that Muslims also hold her in high regard, and even among Hindus and Buddhists there is worship of goddesses that bear a striking resemblance to the Catholic Mary.

In this book, the authors show that Mary is not only Queen of Rome, but will be the unifying factor to bring all the great religions of the world into unity under Rome. She will be "Queen of All."

Table of Contents
Chapter 1 - Queen of all
Chapter 2 - Queen of Rome
Chapter 3 - Queen of Islam
Chapter 4 - Queen of the East
Chapter 5 - Testing the Messages
Chapter 6 - Biblical Exposé of the Queen of Heaven
Chapter 7 - Queen of Revelation
Chapter 8 - Lady of Kingdomes
Chapter 9 - Wicked Woman
Chapter 10 - Come Out of Her, My People!

Of course, you realize that by writing about this topic, the fundamentalists will be causing themselves to be branded as extremist, divisive, etc. The Bible Believers will be accused of promoting the Clash of Civilizations, as well.  Of course, this is false, but such is the nature of the Clash of Civilizations.

From- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Mary_in_Islam we read-

For Muslims, the Virgin Mary is viewed as both an example and a sign for all people.

End 08-17-2006


12-29-2007

http://news.monstersandcritics.com/europe/news/article_1383587.php/Muslim_religious_leaders_accept_Pope_Benedicts_talks_offer

Muslim religious leaders accept Pope Benedict's talks offer

Rome - A group of 138 prominent Islamic religious leaders who are championing improved relations between Muslims and Christians have accepted an invitation by Pope Benedict XIV for a meeting and have suggested dates to prepare for such talks.

'In a letter to (Vatican Secretary of State) Cardinal Tarciso Bertone, we suggested a meeting could be held in February or March, to organize an audience with the Pope,' Yahya Sergio Yahe Pallavicini an Italian imam and who co-signed the letter, told Deutsche Presse- Agentur dpa on Friday.

The letter by the group of Muslim leaders which is headed by Jordan's Prince Ghazi bin Muhammad bin Talal was handed over to the Vatican's Nuncio or ambassador in Jordan's capital Amman on December 12, Pallavicini said.

Vatican Radio announced Thursday the letter had been received, but did not mention any dates for the proposed meeting between representatives of the Muslim leaders and Holy See officials.

In their letter the Muslim leaders also noted they were 'encouraged' to make their proposal following the historic meeting in November between the pontiff and Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah.

The meeting at the Vatican marked the first between a pontiff and a Saudi monarch who traditionally also holds the Islamic title of Custodian of the Holy Mosques of Mecca and Medina.

The group of 138 Muslims, under the auspices of an Amman-based non-governmental organization headed by Prince Ghazi, the Royal Aal al-Bayt Institute for Islamic Thought, first reached out to Christian leaders with a letter in October.


End 12-29-2007


03-11-2008

From the webpage-
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080303/wl_nm/pope_islam_dc
we read-

Vatican, Muslims prepare historic meeting with Pope

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Muslim representatives and Vatican officials begin talks this week that they hope will lead to an unprecedented Catholic-Islamic meeting. Five representatives from each side will meet on Tuesday for two days in Rome to work out the details of a larger meeting that will include Pope Benedict later this year.

Don't you find "five representatives from each side" to be a little more than a coincidence?  Once their agreement is put into place, they could still move to the geographic location of the 10 kings.  5 toes on each foot of the vision of Daniel.

End 03-11-2008


03-26-2008
from the webpage
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080325/ap_on_re_mi_ea/saudi_interfaith_dialogue;_ylt=AqYAdmS6j6lc4v7JePcd6w5vaA8F

Saudi King calls for interfaith dialogue

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia - The Saudi king has made an impassioned plea for dialogue among Muslims, Christians and Jews — the first such proposal from a nation with no diplomatic ties to Israel and a ban on non-Muslim religious services and symbols.
...
"The idea is to ask representatives of all monotheistic religions to sit together with their brothers in faith and sincerity to all religions as we all believe in the same God," the king told delegates Monday night at a seminar on "Culture and the Respect of Religions."

Look for this to result in acceptance of sanctioned religious bodies (to be followed later by unacceptance of certain "evangelicals."

End 03-26-2008


03-29-2008

http://www.secularism.org.uk/93039.html

Here we go, dear readers.  As we have been saying for a long time, there will be a religious based war against "misfits."  As I said on 03-26 "unacceptance of certain evangelicals."    Feel free to insert the words tribulation saints for this phrase.

Saudi King wants monotheisms to unite to defeat atheism

King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia — head of one of the most oppressive regimes in the world — has said that atheism is a “frightening phenomenon that must be vanquished”. He made the threat during a speech in which he called for dialogue between all monotheistic religions.

"I ask representatives of all the monotheistic religions to meet with their brothers in faith," Abdullah told delegates to a seminar on "Dialogue Among Civilizations between Japan and the Islamic World," according to the official Saudi Press Agency (SPA). “If God wills it, we will then meet with our brothers from other religions, including those of the Torah and the Gospel... to come up with ways to safeguard humanity," he added.    [when they want to safeguard us, beware, and look up for your redeemer draweth nigh.]

Abdullah said the country’s top clerics have given him approval to pursue his idea and that he plans to get the opinion of Muslim leaders from other countries. According to SPA, the Saudi king also intends to address the United Nations on the subject. "We have lost sincerity, morals, fidelity and attachment to our religions and to humanity," Abdullah said on Monday, deploring "the disintegration of the family and the rise of atheism in the world – a frightening phenomenon that all religions must confront and vanquish."  [When a man takes things into his own hands to "vanquish", this leads to spiritual trouble.]

To confirm his credentials as a man of interfaith sincerity, we should remember that the Saudi monarchy bans the open worship of other religions. Mosques are the only religious buildings permitted in the country where the fanatical Wahhabi version of Sunni Islam dominates. When the King visited the Vatican recently, [ding, ding, ding] the pope asked if he would consider allowing the building of a church in Saudi Arabia to accommodate some of the 800,000 Catholics in the country. The King is now reported to have turned this request down.

Abdullah’s call follows the formation by the Vatican of a committee that aims to improve relations between Islam and Catholicism. However, this is like trying to pitch the immovable object against the irresistible force. Beyond the big words about conciliation is the hard fact that both these religions are totalitarian in nature and won’t give an inch to the other. Both have an over-arching belief that they have the ultimate truth that cannot be questioned. There is no real sincerity in this supposed search for understanding.  [Not to worry, when it comes to the common enemy (Jews in control of Jerusalem, Christian evangelicals not coopted by the ecumenical movement of watered down Christianity; Purpose Driven bla bla, social churchism, Experiencing God, etc) there is suffficient motivation.]

Last week, in what is seen as a clear provocation, the Pope baptised Italy's most prominent former Muslim, Magdi Allam. And he didn’t do it discreetly, but chose a high-profile Easter Monday service that was shown on TV.

Magdi Allam has infuriated some Muslims with his books and columns in the newspaper Corriere della Sera newspaper, where he is a deputy editor. He titled one book Long Live Israel.

One of the Islamic clerics involved in the pope’s interfaith initiative, Aref Ali Nayed, says Ratzinger’s baptism “was a deliberately provocative act” performed at an unfortunate time because of Catholic-Muslim tensions. Then, a new audio message from Osama bin Laden [yeah, right] accused the pope of playing a "large and lengthy role" in a "new Crusade" against Islam that included the publication of drawings of the Prophet Muhammad that many Muslims found insulting. Catholic-Muslim dialogue? Dialogue of the deaf, more like.

End 03-29-2008


04-03-2008

READER WRITES

Do you see any tie between [these]?
 
2 Thessalonians 2:7-11   For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.  And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:  Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
and
 
A new book is out called Queen of All by Jim Tetlow.  Below are some quotes.  The point of all this is that The Queen of All concept enables the unification of Catholicism and Islam.  That is what the East-West unification is all about, the promotion of Catholicism among the Muslims.  Could the image of Rev 13 have anything to do with Mary appartitions?

She appears as a living, breathing, three-dimensional lady enveloped in exquisite light. Visionaries and seers describe a beautiful, young woman glowing in radiant splendor. Seers, while describing her as brilliant to behold and arrayed with every splendor, admit that the "Queen of Heaven" transcends human description.

Numerous healings and miracles have been reported at apparition sites around the globe. In addition, the apparition of the Blessed Virgin Mary has repeatedly announced that her most significant signs and wonders are yet future! She admits that she has not yet revealed her full glory to the world. She predicts heavenly signs and wonders that the whole world will soon witness. Consider the following messages received by three separate visionaries:

My sign is emerging. God wills it thus. Only my children recognize it, as it reveals itself in secrecy, and they praise the Eternal One for it. Today I cannot reveal my power to the whole world. I must withdraw with my children. In secrecy I will perform miracles on the souls until the number of sacrifices has become full. ?Then I can reveal myself to the whole world?

Soon, I will come, my children! Soon, I will be in your midst with a great light. I will enlighten the entire world. Many souls will cry because they did not listen to my call. ?I will pass above everyone in a cloud and everyone will see me. What will become of those who insulted me and made a laughing stock of me? ?I will come soon, my sons, to travel through the entire world. I will give a great sign in the sky for those who will still want to be saved. All those who have recourse to me, who have a look of repentance, this will be sufficient to save them.
I wish to also tell you that before my apparitions end completely, I shall be seen by every denomination and religion throughout this world.  I will be seen among all people, not for just a moment, but everyone will have a chance to see me. As I appeared in Zeitoun, I shall appear again so everyone may see me.  Pray and help my plans to be realized, not just here, but throughout the world

Dear children, today I invite you to peace. I have come here as the Queen of Peace and I desire to enrich you with my Motherly Peace.... I invite you to become carriers and witnesses of my peace to this unpeaceful world. Let peace rule in the whole world.

In another message, Mary told the seers: "Tell this priest, tell everyone, that it is you who are divided on earth. The Muslims and the Orthodox, for the same reason as Catholics, are equal before my Son and I. You are all my children."  Mary's message of peace, unity, and tolerance is one that a distressed and perplexed world craves.

Try to understand the reason for My coming on this day. The Lord Jesus Christ has selected this great day for "the Lady of All Nations." Her mission is to establish unity among Her nations. She is sent to make one great Community of Her nations. To gather all nations into one Community, that is the task set before the world in this present time, which I have heralded repeatedly.

Life explains that Mary's popularity is not just among Catholics: "One of the intriguing aspects of the latest rise of Mary is this: The emotional need for her is so irresistible to a troubled world that people without an obvious link to the Virgin are being drawn to her. It's not news that Muslims revere Mary as a pure and holy saint -- she's mentioned 34 times in the Koran, ?but to see large numbers of Muslims making pilgrimages to Christian Marian shrines is a remarkable thing. Interdenominational Marian prayer groups are springing up throughout the world."

See also http://www.chick.com/catalog/books/1255.asp

Mary...Millions of Catholics travel to shrines to pray before her image. But what is not commonly known is that Muslims also hold her in high regard, and even among Hindus and Buddhists there is worship of goddesses that bear a striking resemblance to the Catholic Mary.

In this book, the authors show that Mary is not only Queen of Rome, but will be the unifying factor to bring all the great religions of the world into unity under Rome. She will be "Queen of All."

Table of Contents
Chapter 1 - Queen of all
Chapter 2 - Queen of Rome
Chapter 3 - Queen of Islam
Chapter 4 - Queen of the East
Chapter 5 - Testing the Messages
Chapter 6 - Biblical Exposé of the Queen of Heaven
Chapter 7 - Queen of Revelation
Chapter 8 - Lady of Kingdomes
Chapter 9 - Wicked Woman
Chapter 10 - Come Out of Her, My People!

Of course, you realize that by writing about this topic, the fundamentalists will be causing themselves to be branded as extremist, divisive, etc. The Bible Believers will be accused of promoting the Clash of Civilizations, as well.  Of course, this is false, but such is the nature of the Clash of Civilizations.

and King Abdullah along with King Abdullah II seeking a melding of religions?

(end of letter from reader)

RESPONSE

There is definitely a connection in my view.   It has been suggested previously that the image of the beast would be a statue of Mary.  When was this suggestion made?    Answer- Over 150 years ago in 1854-1858.  See the book The Two Babylons by Alexander Hislop.  The entire book is online.   The chapter on the image of the beast is found here.  http://philologos.org/__eb-ttb/sect74.htm

End 04-03-2008


04-06-2008

When reading the book above on Mary, please remember that it was published during the strategic period of the "antichurch".

I do want to make a few more comments about the following paragraph which appeared above.

In another message, Mary told the seers: "Tell this priest, tell everyone, that it is you who are divided on earth. The Muslims and the Orthodox, for the same reason as Catholics, are equal before my Son and I. You are all my children."  Mary's message of peace, unity, and tolerance is one that a distressed and perplexed world craves.

Do you see any Protestant evangelicals in the list of Muslims, Orthodox, and Catholics?  Any fundamentalists?  Any Calvinists?  Any Darbyists?  Any Dispensationalists?  Of course not.  These groups are being labelled as "extremists" who are portrayed as false Christians.  What is transpiring is the creation of a Roman Catholic defined "true" church.  Those outside the definition are to soon become the tribulation saints.

Everything possible is being done to label those outside the fold of "Mary" as extremists, terrorists, imperialists, etc, etc:

Some examples that portending the outcome

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/04/06/texas.ranch/?iref=mpstoryview
Authorities stormed the temple of a Texas ranch that's home to a rogue Mormon sect Saturday, as part of a search for victims of physical and sexual abuse, police said.  View this situation in the light of Waco, 1993Note- I make no approval of the LDS, but, for our purposes that is beside the point.

http://www.660news.com/news/local/article.jsp?content=20080406_011818_5412
Here comes that 1993 word "compound."   Please be advised that all true Christians go to an approved "church" and all "terrorist" believers go to a "compound."  Well, at least if they have a place, it could be called a compound.  Remember when Bill Clinton said "we might have to do this again"? 

West Texas polygamist sect compound searched

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/56198
In a dangerous game that directly fuels Islamic extremism, Evangelical churches have recently attempted to accuse the Jordanian government of deporting their members who are at times disguised as charity organization staff members. In fact, one could imagine that this would be a sign of deterioration of Human Rights and disrespect of the Freedom of Faith in Jordan. As it happens, it is not. The Evangelical churches have been categorically denounced by the local Christians for hypocritical attitude and behaviour, which shows that the deportations that took place were rather a measure of calming down an explosive situation.

In a statement issued by the "Council of Church Leaders in Jordan", the Bishops of the Greek Orthodox, Greek Catholic (Melkite), Roman Catholic, and Armenian Orthodox Churches severely criticized the Evangelical Churches that have been established in Jordan "under the guise of charitable organizations, and have started to call themselves as churches -which they are not – and to ask for the same rights that the Constitution stipulates for formal churches. They also have proselytized among Jordanians, in a manner that has given rise to religious animosity, disrespecting the freedom of conscience, and thus disturbing the relations between Christian and Muslim Jordanian citizens. In short, they have become a threat to public security".

As the statement reveals one of the most secret aspects of the machinations against the peaceful coexistence of Muslims and Christians in Jordan, namely the hypocritical attitude of the Evangelical Churches, we find it necessary to re-publish here the denunciation of these pseudo-Christian acts that target the world peace, as they contribute only to further radicalizing the already explosive situation in the Middle East.

Further presence of the Evangelicals in the Middle East should be conditioned upon approval of the authentic Christian churches of the Orient, namely the Greek Orthodox, the Greek Catholic (Melkite), the Roman Catholic, and the Armenian Orthodox. It would rather be advisable for the American authorities to consult with Vatican and the Oriental Patriarchates, before expressing support behind the scenes for certain Evangelical extremists who are the Western counterweight of Osama Bin Laden and Ayman Zawahri.

Emphasis added. Evangelicals are just like Bin Laden and Zawahri.  Of course, we need to consult with the Vatican and Oriental Patriachates to determine if someone speaks the truth.  In case you were not aware, the Roman Church has totally coopted the Eastern (Oriental) churches for decades.  I'll bet, if the truth was known about these trouble making "evangelicals", the "evangelicals" work for those who will "prove" that "evangelicals" are BinLadenists.


End 04-06-2008


11-27-2014
We think we understand things.  We do not.  You must look at the BIG picture.

See this- Friends, what we are witnessing before our eyes is not some petty statement about the Ukraine or sanctions, it is the admission by Lavrov of a fundamental "clash of civilizations", but not between some wholly imaginary "Christian West" and Islam, but between Christian Russia and the post-Christian West.

http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.ca/2014/11/absolutely-crucial-statement-by-foreign.html

End 11-27-2014




I could be wrong, but, the Bible is never wrong. Regardless of the specific merits of this web page, one  needs to understand that the coming of the Lord is  sooner than we think.

What are we to DO about all this?   Answer- Nothing.  Any participation will further inflame the situation.  Reading this should convince a reasonable person that with what is coming soon, the world will offer NOTHING for hope . We do not need the Bible to figure this out.
The hatred that is being engendered from these events is incalculable.

However, what DOES THE BIBLE say? -  

Mat 24:7 for NATION shall rise against NATION , and kingdom against kingdom.  According to Mat 24:8 these are part of the BEGINNING of SORROWS .  Then, what happens?

Mat 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you : and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

The word NATION above is Strong's Concordance word number 1484 in the Greek Dictionary. It means " tribe ", specifically non-Jewish. It is, therefore, "tribal" conflict and fits into the mold of Huntington's Clash of Civilizations.

Mat 24:10   And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
(the accusations will lead to betrayal (to authorities) and hatred will abound (specifically toward any fundamentalist).

Mat 24:11   And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
(deceivers will make matters worse)

Mat 24:12   And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
(lawlessness, disregard for true authority, will abound)

The above verses refer to the tribulation period and the tribulation saints, when the Clash of Civilizations will be underway .  

The only thing we should do - get right with the Lord now and wait patiently for His coming.


02-13-2016
In 1993 I wrote a book titled The Iron and the Clay, which is, as yet, unpublished. 

Here are quotes from the book (This is referring to Reagan and Bush I)

BUSH-REAGAN - A COUP FOR THE VATICAN AND KREMLIN

Bush, Reagan, and US intelligence were used to promote an "anti-Russian" political objective. Before Bush and Gorbachev met on Malta, Gorbachev met with the Pope in the Vatican. By conspiring with these two Bush became (consciously?) an agent of the Vatican in its political objectives vis-a-vis Russia. [Reagan was "forced" into accepting Bush as VP and Bush undermined Reagan.] Actually the combined Reagan-Bush years constituted a coup for the Vatican vis-a-vis US policies - the plans for such coup being symbolically "trumpeted" to the Vatican insiders at the Reagan inauguration.

According to ex-Jesuit priest, Alberto Rivera, it has been a long understood sign that the Vatican was in control of the US when the president took the oath of office facing the Washington monument. Ronald Reagan was the first president in US history to take the oath facing the monument. 31 Did Reagan know this? A Catholic-Leninist America is the ultimate objective of the "anti-Russian" policy as will be shown.

"The Vatican is building her empire within the US with such success that she no longer fears serious opposition to her continued expansion, indeed, to her inevitable takeover." 32

[The Vatican says that] "what these competitors are talking about, then, is the most widespread modification of international, national and local life that the world has seen in a thousand years" 33 (* emphasis added).

Why 1,000 years? Why not 1,500 years or 2,000 years? The answer lies in understanding the view the Vatican has of Russia and the Eastern Orthodox Church since the great schism of 1054. The year 1054 AD saw the Roman Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox Church BOTH declare themselves to be THE SOLE UNIVERSAL CHURCH, thus, making the Eastern Orthodox THE bitter enemy of Rome, second only to Zionism.

131. Jack Chick, The Godfathers, Chick Publications, Chino, CA

232. Manhattan, p. 177

33. Martin, p. 16

[Parenthetically speaking, the motto of the Jesuit priests has been "Ubi Lenin, Ibi Jerusalem" - where Lenin is, there is Jerusalem. 34 Therefore, Leninism is the Catholic route to gaining control of Jerusalem, a major objective of the Vatican since the first crusade, 1090 AD. Zionism has reacted by obstructing the Vatican's desire to control Jerusalem, their ultimate target. Is it any wonder that the Bible says that the crowning event, for man, will be a world political leader (promoted by a RELIGIOUS figure) sitting in the temple in Jerusalem, in order to be worshipped? (2 Thes 2:3-11) This very event initiates the "great tribulation" spoken of by Jesus in Mathew 24:15.]

434. Manhattan, The Vatican Moscow Washington Alliance, preface

The East-West fight goes back to 1054 when the Eastern Church and the Western Church (Rome) both declared themselves to be the SOLE UNIVERSAL church. The results were the Vatican sponsored crusades (to conquer the Eastern Church and place it under the authority of Rome) and centuries of murder which include both WWI and WWII. Get this fact firmly in your mind and you can begin to understand the rest of the history.

In the year 1453, the czar of Russia assumed the role of protector of the Eastern Orthodox Church, making the czar the enemy of the Vatican for over 400 years. The Vatican, which publicly decried the Bolsheviks (Lenin, etc.), secretly applauded the rise of Soviet communism as a weapon to destroy the czar (the protector of the Vatican's 1,000 year enemy, the Eastern Church). Secret negotiations were initiated in 1917 between the Vatican and the Bolsheviks but "cutoff" by the communists around 1925 after a honeymoon that had lasted eight years. [A criticism made by the Vatican of the Russian Orthodox Church is they were "a slave to the czar." 1 (*) Believe me, the Vatican, on the other hand, serves NO ONE.]

Manhattan says that

"the evil of Bolshevism could ... be accepted in view of its having destroyed the Orthodox Church - with one proviso, however; that it would give Rome a free hand to finish the task of eliminating Orthodoxy in Russia once and for all...the deal was accepted...while the Vatican was publicly fulminating against Bolshevism...[the Kremlin and the Vatican] began secret negotiations." 2

One of the other reasons for this hatred of the Russians is that they had made an agreement with France in 1894 known as the Franco-Russian Dual Alliance. This agreement motivated the Vatican to get Germany to attack Russia and France during WWI. Of course, the Vatican already hated France for the French Revolution and its aftermath. It is admitted in "The Keys" that the Vatican was kept from participation in the peace treaty after WWI because of "revenge." 3 The reason the allies sought "revenge" is not stated. The truth is the Vatican role in the starting of WWI. 4

1 1. Malachi Martin, The Keys of This Blood, The Struggle for

World Dominion Between Pope John Paul II, Mikhail Gorbachev, and The Capitalist West, Simon and Schuster, New York, 1990, p. 211

2 2. Avro Manhattan, The Vatican Billions, Chick Publications, Chino, CA, 1983, p. 125

3 3. Martin, p. 173

4 4. See publications from Chick by Avro Manhattan, especially

The Secret History of The Jesuits, The Vatican Moscow

Washington Alliance, The Vatican Billions, and the

Alberto comic book series, 6 volumes, especially

The Godfathers.

By the way, how was Lenin able to cross though 2 opposing armies (of WWI) while riding in a train to Moscow? 
Answer- the train was flying the Papal Flag.

In light of these quotes, please read this news article (provided by my friend Rob).
How late is it, dear reader?   The second coming of Christ for His Church approaches and the Tribulation follows.

After 1,000-year split, pope and Russian patriarch embrace in Cuba
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-pope-orthodox-cuba-arrival-idUSKCN0VL26B

The AMAZING part of this is that the 1000 year quote above from Malachi Martin matches EXACTLY the headline on the Reuters link.

Pope Francis and Russian Orthodox Patriarch Kirill embraced and kissed on Friday in a historic meeting, uniting to issue a global appeal for the protection of Christians under assault in the Middle East.

Nearly 1,000 years after the Eastern and Western branches of Christianity split apart, the meeting at an airport terminal in Cuba was the first ever between a Roman Catholic pope and a Russian Orthodox patriarch.

"In many countries of the Middle East and North Africa whole families, villages and cities of our brothers and sisters in Christ are being completely exterminated," they said in a joint declaration in apparent reference to violence by militant groups such as Islamic State.

And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.  Daniel 8:25

BY PEACE SHALL DESTROY MANY !!!!

By virtue of making peace (killing ISIS), he will destroy many, dear friend.   To WHOM does Daniel 8:25 refer?   Answer: The antichrist.

The antichrist will be a SPONSORED man.   The reuters article is referring to one of his many (but most important) sponsors.

And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.     Daniel 8:24

End 02-13-2016


02-23-2016

Can you imagine Rush Limbaugh saying the following?
http://hotair.com/archives/2016/02/10/rush-limbaugh-ted-cruz-is-the-closest-were-going-to-get-to-ronald-reagan-in-our-lifetimes/

If conservatism is your bag, if conservatism is the dominating factor in how you vote, there is no other choice for you in this campaign than Ted Cruz, because you are exactly right: This is the closest in our lifetimes we have ever been to Ronald Reagan.

I am not writing about this because I have an interest in presidential politics, but, because I am interested in the ramifications of this as a potential "endgame" maneuver for the elite.  

Rush said IF CONSERVATISM IS YOUR BAG...
The bastion of conservatism since 1988 talks to his audience as if they are NOT conservatives.   Rush's comments are more than interesting.

Perhaps, he is qualifying his endorsement of Ted Cruz by saying if conservatism is the dominating factor in how you vote,
so he can actually say later that he did NOT endorse Cruz.  Of course, Rush has presented himself for 30 years as the spokesman for conservatism.

Continuing with the article:
It does seem to follow logically that the biggest name in conservative talk radio, who’s been preaching Reagan conservatism to millions for 30 years, is dropping an endorsement when he calls a candidate the next best thing to Reagan himself...  But I assume Rush himself will deny that tomorrow...

Now a little about Rush Limbaugh from my 1993 Manuscript, The Iron and the Clay.

Joe Kennedy escorted Eugenio Pacelli - then Secretary of State for the Vatican, later Pope Pius XII - on Pacelli's 1936 trip to Washington, which resulted in a White House representative being sent to the Vatican in 1938 [in exchange for the removal of Father Coughlin, the 1936 version of Rush Limbaugh, from the airwaves]. 1

1 1. Michael R. Bechloss, Kennedy and Roosevelt, W. W. Norton

& Co., New York, 1980, p. 202-203

In the 1930s Father Coughlin was opposed to the US entry into World War II.   Google "Bechloss Father Coughlin 1936"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Coughlin

Could it be that the Vatican was a silent sponsor of the Nazi party because they were a natural enemy of Russia, an historical nemesis of the Vatican dating back to 1054?  Did the Vatican use Franz von Papen for this purpose?

"The Third Reich is the first world power which not only acknowledges but also puts into practice the high principles of the papacy." [Robert d'Harcourt of the French Academy: "Franz von Papen, l'homme a tout faire", L'Aube, 3 Oct 1946, cited by Paris on p. 165.] 8

8 8. Ibid., p. 165

Franz von Papen was the #2 man in Nazi Germany.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_von_Papen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichskonkordat

The Reichskonkordat (English: Reich Concordat) is a treaty between the Holy See and Germany negotiated during its transition into Nazi Germany. It was signed on 20 July 1933 by Secretary of State Eugenio Pacelli (later Pope Pius XII) on behalf of Pope Pius XI and Vice Chancellor Franz von Papen on behalf of President Paul von Hindenburg and the German government. It was ratified September 10, 1933 and has been in force since this date. The treaty guarantees the rights of theRoman Catholic Church in Germany.

Rush stated on his increasingly popular radio talk show (circa 1993)that he meets once a month with a secret group to discuss his agenda. He said he could not tell us who it was. His show started in August of 88, so he could be the mouthpiece for the Bush, former head of the CIA, election.


Could it be that Limbaugh has supported the Vatican agenda in the US?  Is the secret group of which he spoke on his show the Vatican or operatives for it?

Given all this background and Limbaugh's endorsement of Ted Cruz, now enter Cruz's father, Rafael Cruz, who is advocating an
"end times wealth transfer from the evil rich to the righteous".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNa5w9js48s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_Bienvenido_Cruz
At the New Beginnings Church in Irving, Texas, in August 2012, Cruz delivered a sermon where he described his son's senatorial campaign as taking place within a context where Christian "kings" were anointed to preside over an "end-time transfer of wealth" from wicked people to the righteous. Cruz urged the congregation to "tithe mightily" to achieve that result.[28] During an interview conducted by the Christian Post in 2014, Cruz stated, "I think we cannot separate politics and religion; they are interrelated. They've always been interrelated

Who knows what Rafael's words mean, but, Rafael Cruz's words sound like a cross between Jesuit Communism and a claim to religious certitude. 
See Malachi Martin's book, The JESUITS, The Society of Jesus and the Betrayal of the Roman Catholic Church
See also these references to Malachi Martin's book, The Keys of this Blood, Struggle for Control of the New World Order between John Paul II, the Capitalist West, and Michael Gorbachev.

Pope Francis is a Jesuit, the first one.     Read about the Liberation Theology of the Jesuits;
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2013/03/14/jesuits_and_liberation_theology_explainer_pope_francis_is_the_first_jesuit.html
http://www.mosquitonet.com/~prewett/mmartinjesuits.html

http://www.internationalbulletin.org/issues/2004-02/2004-02-063-klaiber.pdf
Do the words of Rafael Cruz sound like Jesuit liberation theology?

From The Iron and the Clay -

The papal policy toward communism was COMPLETELY CHANGED in 1958 and carried out in earnest beginning in 1963, when John XXIII and Paul VI, respectively, became pope. Their policy became MERGING with communism, rather than conquering it. What the Vatican did was to make Catholicism Marxist, rather than make the Russians Catholics.


It was as a result of the Vatican II Council (1958 -1965) that the US, practically speaking, became the active target of conquest because it had been for a long time


"the ARCHVILLAIN OF ALL HUMAN HISTORY" (* emphasis added) in the eyes of the Vatican.


Understanding this fact is the key to understanding the turbulent decade of the 60's. While the Vatican had turned to Marxism, the WEST was still officially anti-Marxist - creating a huge conflict. While the Vatican had worked with the US in the Cold War - to defeat the Russians -, it had now secretly become the enemy of the West, while publicly continuing its partnership within the US.


Understanding this 1958 policy switch is the key to understanding the pontificate of John Paul II, the man who became pope in 1978 and still remains at the head of the Roman Church. 19 He is continuing this Marxist policy with 2 exceptions:


1. He favors his own brand of Marxism, not Soviet Marxism

(which means he really wants to control Russia)

2. He publicly formed an alliance with the US to ostensibly overthrow Soviet Marxism, a secretly anti- US alliance (which means he used the opportunity to further infiltrate/coopt the US intelligence service, while the communists pretended to have given up communism)


919. Avro Manhattan, The Vatican Moscow Washington Alliance,

Chick Publications, Chino, CA, 1986, pp. 280-281


Friend, things are not what they appear to be

You may not be aware (I was not either when I voted for Reagan the 2nd time) that Reagan recognized the Vatican as a country (complete with Embassy in the USA) 
http://www.nytimes.com/1984/01/11/world/us-and-vatican-restore-full-ties-after-117-years.html

On the cover of Time Magazine on February 24, 1992, there is a a picture of Reagan and John Paul II with the words
"HOLY ALLIANCE."   Their conspiracy to overthrow communism (Time Magazine says "How Reagan and the Pope conspired") unfortunately had an even bigger agenda in the long run (unknown to Reagan).  Could Ted Cruz be an unwitting accomplice in the  "end-time transfer of wealth" from wicked people to the righteous?

Remember, Rafael told his son in 1980, "God has destined you for greatness."

Lord God, keep us from pride and desiring greatness.
We can easily become victimized by our own pride.

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